{"id":11405,"date":"2025-11-26T16:15:00","date_gmt":"2025-11-26T14:15:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/laszlo8360.com\/?p=11405"},"modified":"2026-01-19T22:13:23","modified_gmt":"2026-01-19T20:13:23","slug":"11405","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/laszlo8360.com\/fr\/11405\/","title":{"rendered":"Sorsz\u00e1m n\u00e9lk\u00fcl"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><em>Egy ad\u00f3tartoz\u00e1s nyom\u00e1ba eredek, \u00e9s azonnal kider\u00fcl: nem az \u00f6sszeg a neh\u00e9z, hanem az \u00fatvonal. Sorsz\u00e1mok, nyomtatv\u00e1nyok, \u00e9s egy rendszer, ami levelet k\u00fcld oda, ahol sosem \u00e9r utol. A v\u00e9g\u00e9n m\u00e1r csak az a k\u00e9rd\u00e9s marad: mire mindez lez\u00e1rul, mennyi \u00faj tartoz\u00e1s sz\u00fcletik k\u00f6zben?<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<!--more-->\n\n\n\n\n\n<hr class=\"wp-block-separator has-alpha-channel-opacity\"\/>\n\n\n\n<pre class=\"wp-block-preformatted\">Mondatfoszl\u00e1nyok k\u00f6vetkeznek. 2025 november\u00e9ben, Budapesten \u00e9s Zal\u00e1ban, egy napl\u00f3bejegyz\u00e9st sem k\u00e9sz\u00edtettem, helyette mondatt\u00f6red\u00e9keket jegyeztem fel \u2013 ott \u00e9s akkor, amikor azok \u00e9pp eszembe jutottak. Most ezeket nem id\u0151rendi sorrendbe rendezem; \u00fagy v\u00e1logatok bel\u0151l\u00fck, ahogy az aktu\u00e1lis kedvem dikt\u00e1lja. Igen, a d\u00e1tumokat \u00e9s neveket sz\u00e1nd\u00e9kosan rontottam el.<\/pre>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\"><strong>Korm\u00e1nyhivatal \u00fcgyf\u00e9lszolg\u00e1lata, Keszthely<\/strong><\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">\u2013 Igen, ez az ad\u00f3tartoz\u00e1s val\u00f3ban a be nem fizetett t\u00e1rsadalombiztos\u00edt\u00e1s miatt van.<br>\u2013 Azt hol int\u00e9zik?<br>\u2013 Itt, a mellettem l\u00e9v\u0151 asztaln\u00e1l, de a h\u00e9ten beteg a koll\u00e9gan\u0151.<br>\u2013&nbsp; J\u00f6v\u0151 h\u00e9ten m\u00e1r nem leszek ebben a v\u00e1rosban.<br>\u2013 \u00c1t tud menni H\u00e9v\u00edzre is, ha a j\u00f6v\u0151 h\u00e9t m\u00e1r k\u00e9s\u0151 \u00f6nnek.<br>Addig is adok egy formanyomtatv\u00e1nyt: ezzel tudja k\u00e9rv\u00e9nyezni a fizet\u00e9si k\u00f6telezetts\u00e9g\u00e9nek a t\u00f6rl\u00e9s\u00e9t.<br>Visszahozhatja ide vagy H\u00e9v\u00edzre is, vagy beviszi majd Budapesten a k\u00f6zponti irod\u00e1ba.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\"><strong>Korm\u00e1nyhivatal, H\u00e9v\u00edz \u2013 els\u0151 pr\u00f3b\u00e1lkoz\u00e1s<\/strong><\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">&nbsp;Nem kapok sorsz\u00e1mot. Nem tudni mi\u00e9rt. N\u00e9zel\u0151d\u00f6m.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">\u2013 Seg\u00edthetek? \u2013 sz\u00f3l oda, a v\u00e1r\u00f3termen kereszt\u00fcl rohan\u00f3 h\u00f6lgy.<br>\u2013 Nem adott sorsz\u00e1mot a g\u00e9p. Ez\u00e9rt a falon \u00e9s a neten keresem az inform\u00e1ci\u00f3t.<br>\u2013 Rendben. \u2013 \u00e9s tov\u00e1bb halad.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Meghallom a pultokb\u00f3l kisz\u0171r\u0151d\u0151 besz\u00e9dekb\u0151l, hogy hamarosan z\u00e1rnak.<br>Ja, hogy ez\u00e9rt nem kaptam sorsz\u00e1mot!<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">A Seg\u00edthetek Etelka, ha val\u00f3ban seg\u00edteni akar, akkor elmondja, mi\u00e9rt nem kaptam sorsz\u00e1mot.<br>Esetleg megk\u00e9rdezhette volna, milyen inf\u00f3t keres az \u00fcgyf\u00e9l\u2026<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Gondolom, att\u00f3l tartott, hogy a r\u00f6vid v\u00e1lasza nekem nem lesz el\u00e9g;<br><em>(nem volt a homlokomra \u00edrva, hogy nekem egy e-mail-c\u00edm is el\u00e9g lenne;)<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">hisz a legt\u00f6bben a leghosszabb k\u00e9rd\u00e9st \u00fagy vezetik fel:<br>\u201eCsak azt az egyet akarom gyorsan megk\u00e9rdezni, hogy\u2026\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Vannak helyek, ahol tan\u00edtj\u00e1k, hogyan lehet az id\u0151rabl\u00f3 \u00fcgyfelet bar\u00e1ts\u00e1gosan, de hat\u00e1rozottan r\u00f6vidre z\u00e1rni.<br>Nem az Etelka hib\u00e1ja, ha ebben a rendszerben ilyen tanfolyam nincs.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\"><strong>Korm\u00e1nyhivatal, H\u00e9v\u00edz \u2013 m\u00e1sodik pr\u00f3b\u00e1lkoz\u00e1s<\/strong><\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">\u2013 Ma is sokan vannak, z\u00e1r\u00e1sig nem fog sorra ker\u00fclni.<br>Adok \u00f6nnek egy formanyomtatv\u00e1nyt.<br>Ezzel a k\u00e9rv\u00e9nnyel a k\u00f6vetkez\u0151 alkalommal le tudjuk k\u00e9rni az adatait a franci\u00e1kt\u00f3l.<br>Ide fel\u00edrja a munkahelye adatait, a ledolgozott id\u0151szakot.<br>Egy munkahelye volt a hat \u00e9v alatt?<br>\u2013 F\u00e9l \u00e9vente egy munkaszerz\u0151d\u00e9s, de p\u00e9ld\u00e1ul h\u00e1rom \u00e9ve ugyanabban a hotelben vagyok.<br>\u2013 Egy munkaszerz\u0151d\u00e9s, egy pap\u00edr. Vigyen t\u00f6bbet, amennyi csak kell.<br>Visszahozhatja \u0151ket ide is, vagy leadhatja Pesten,<br>vagy elk\u00fcldi \u0151ket az interneten.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\"><strong>Eg\u00e9szs\u00e9gbiztos\u00edt\u00e1si p\u00e9nzt\u00e1r, k\u00f6zponti \u00fcgyf\u00e9lszolg\u00e1lata<\/strong><\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">\u2013 K\u00e9rek egy TAJ-k\u00e1rty\u00e1t.<br>\u2013 Tess\u00e9k, itt van n\u00e9gy, v\u00e1lasszon.<br>\u2013 Az nem lehet. Egy embernek csak egy TAJ-sz\u00e1ma lehet.<br>\u2013 \u00c9pp ez\u00e9rt j\u00f6ttem.<br>\u2013 Ez a z\u00f6ld TAJ-k\u00e1rtya r\u00e9gi, m\u00e1r nem ilyet gy\u00e1rtunk.<br>Ez az, ami Eur\u00f3p\u00e1ban is \u00e9rv\u00e9nyes, de itthon is haszn\u00e1lhatja.<br>Mi ez a v-i-t-a-l-e card?<br>\u2013 Franciaorsz\u00e1gban fizetem az eg\u00e9szs\u00e9gbiztos\u00edt\u00e1st, ott ezzel megyek az orvoshoz \u00e9s a patik\u00e1ba.<br>A negyedik pedig az EU \u00f6sszes orsz\u00e1g\u00e1ban elfogadott k\u00e1rtya a francia sz\u00e1mommal \u2014 ez az, ami \u00e9rv\u00e9nyes.<br>\u2013 Mi ez a sok nyomtatv\u00e1ny? Ez \u00edgy nem j\u00f3.<br>Kit\u00f6lt\u00f6k \u00f6nnek egy darab k\u00e9rv\u00e9nyt, ami alapj\u00e1n majd lek\u00e9rj\u00fck az adatait a franci\u00e1kt\u00f3l.<br>\u2013 Itt vannak a kor\u00e1bbi munkahelyeim igazol\u00e1sai.<br>\u2013 Munkahelyet nem \u00edrok a k\u00e9rv\u00e9nyre, azt majd megkapjuk \u00f6sszes\u00edtve, egy dokumentumban.<br>Ut\u00e1na k\u00fcld\u00fcnk egy levelet az \u00e1lland\u00f3 lakc\u00edm\u00e9re,<br>amiben leigazoljuk, hogy rendezte a biztos\u00edt\u00e1st.<br>\u2013 N\u00e9zze csak a lakc\u00edmk\u00e1rty\u00e1mat: azon a c\u00edmen biztosan nem fog utol\u00e9rni a level\u00fck, (utca: lakcim n\u00e9lk\u00fcli)<br>de az ap\u00e1m\u00e9t be tudom dikt\u00e1lni,<br>ha nem tudj\u00e1k interneten kik\u00fcldeni.<br>\u2013 Mi nem tudunk felh\u0151be menteni.<br>Ha \u00e1tvette a pap\u00edrt, akkor azzal el tud menni az ad\u00f3hivatalba.<br>Amikor m\u00e1r nincs tartoz\u00e1sa, akkor vissza tetszik j\u00f6nni ide.<br>Ut\u00e1na m\u00e1r meg tudjuk \u00edrni a k\u00e9rv\u00e9nyt a fizet\u00e9si k\u00f6telezetts\u00e9g\u00e9nek a t\u00f6rl\u00e9s\u00e9hez.<br>\u2013 Meg tudjuk tippelni, mennyi id\u0151, mire eljutunk a magyar TAJ-k\u00e1rty\u00e1m inaktiv\u00e1l\u00e1s\u00e1ig?<br>\u2013 Tal\u00e1n f\u00e9l \u00e9v.<br>\u2013 Azt j\u00f3l \u00e9rtem, hogy addigra keletkezik egy \u00fajabb ad\u00f3tartoz\u00e1som?<\/p>\n\n\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-embed is-type-rich is-provider-flickr wp-block-embed-flickr\"><div class=\"wp-block-embed__wrapper\">\n<a data-flickr-embed='true' href='https:\/\/www.flickr.com\/photos\/58309506@N08' title='Laszlo Varga'><img src='https:\/\/live.staticflickr.com\/65535\/54997673130_e70be2716f_c.jpg' width='800' height='600' alt='20251221_162913'><\/a><script async src='https:\/\/embedr.flickr.com\/assets\/client-code.js' charset='utf-8'><\/script>\n<\/div><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\"><strong><kbd><mark style=\"background-color:#000000\" class=\"has-inline-color has-white-color\">A k\u00e9p sz\u00e9l\u00e9re val\u00f3 kattint\u00e1ssal a fot\u00f3album lapozhat\u00f3.<\/mark><\/kbd><\/strong><\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n\n\n<hr class=\"wp-block-separator has-alpha-channel-opacity\"\/>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\"><strong>No Ticket Number<\/strong><\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">I start chasing a tax debt, and it quickly becomes clear: the hard part isn\u2019t the amount\u2014it\u2019s the route. Keszthely, H\u00e9v\u00edz, the central service desk: ticket machines, forms, and a system that insists on mailing letters to an address that will never reach me. In the end, the question is simple: by the time this is solved, how much new debt will be generated along the way?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">English body text<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Government Office Customer Service, Keszthely<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li>Yes, this tax debt really is due to unpaid social insurance contributions.<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>Where do I handle that?<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>Right here, at the desk next to me, but my colleague is sick this week.<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>Next week I won\u2019t be in this town anymore.<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>You can also go to H\u00e9v\u00edz if next week is too late for you. In the meantime, I\u2019ll give you a form\u2014you can use it to request the cancellation of your payment obligation. You can bring it back here or to H\u00e9v\u00edz, or take it to the central office in Budapest.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Government Office, H\u00e9v\u00edz \u2013 first attempt<\/strong><br>I don\u2019t get a ticket number. No idea why. I look around.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li>Can I help? \u2014 a woman calls out while hurrying across the waiting room.<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>The machine didn\u2019t give me a ticket. So I\u2019m looking for information on the wall and online.<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>Okay. \u2014 and she keeps going.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">From the bits of conversation leaking out of the counters, I hear they\u2019re about to close soon.<br>Oh\u2014<em>that\u2019s<\/em> why I didn\u2019t get a ticket number!<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">If \u201cCan-I-help Etelka\u201d really wants to help, she tells me why I didn\u2019t get a ticket.<br>She could also have asked what information the customer was looking for\u2026<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">I assume she was afraid that a short answer wouldn\u2019t be enough for me;<br>(it wasn\u2019t written on my forehead that an email address would be enough;)<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">because most people start their longest question like this:<br>\u201cI just want to quickly ask one thing\u2026\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">There are places where they teach how to wrap up time-wasting customers politely but firmly.<br>It\u2019s not Etelka\u2019s fault if this system doesn\u2019t offer that training.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Government Office, H\u00e9v\u00edz \u2013 second attempt<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li>There are a lot of people again today\u2014you won\u2019t get called before closing. I\u2019ll give you a form. With this request, next time we can retrieve your data from the French authorities. Write your employer\u2019s details here, and the period you worked. Was it just one employer over those six years?<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>A new contract every six months, but for example I\u2019ve been in the same hotel for three years.<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>One contract, one paper. Take as many as you need. You can bring them back here, hand them in in Budapest, or submit them online.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Health Insurance Fund, Central Customer Service<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li>I\u2019d like a TAJ card.<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>Here you go\u2014four of them. Pick one.<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>That can\u2019t be right. One person can only have one TAJ number.<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>Exactly why I\u2019m here.<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>This green TAJ card is old\u2014we don\u2019t make this type anymore. This is the one that\u2019s valid in Europe, but you can use it at home too. What is this \u201cv-i-t-a-l-e card\u201d?<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>I pay health insurance in France; that\u2019s what I use at the doctor and the pharmacy. And the fourth one is the EU-wide accepted card with my French number\u2014that\u2019s the one that\u2019s valid.<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>What are all these forms? This isn\u2019t good like this. I\u2019ll fill out a single request for you, and based on that we\u2019ll retrieve your data from the French.<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>Here are certificates from my previous employers.<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>I\u2019m not writing employers into the request\u2014we\u2019ll receive it all summarized in one document. Then we\u2019ll send a letter to your permanent address confirming that your insurance is settled.<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>Look at my address card: you definitely won\u2019t reach me at that address, but I can dictate my father\u2019s if you can\u2019t send it online.<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>We can\u2019t save things to the cloud. If you take this paper, you can go to the tax office with it. Once you have no debt, you come back here. After that, we can write the request to cancel your payment obligation.<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>Can we guess how long it will take until we get to deactivating my Hungarian TAJ card?<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>Maybe half a year.<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>Am I understanding correctly that by then I\u2019ll have accumulated a new tax debt?<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n\n\n\n<hr class=\"wp-block-separator has-alpha-channel-opacity\"\/>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\"><strong>Sans num\u00e9ro de file<\/strong><\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Je pars sur la piste d\u2019une dette fiscale, et je comprends vite : le plus difficile, ce n\u2019est pas la somme, c\u2019est le parcours. Keszthely, H\u00e9v\u00edz, puis le guichet central \u2014 tickets, formulaires, et un syst\u00e8me qui envoie des lettres \u00e0 une adresse o\u00f9 elles ne me rattraperont jamais. \u00c0 la fin, la question est simple : le temps que tout se r\u00e8gle, combien de nouvelles dettes naissent en chemin ?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Texte fran\u00e7ais<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Service client\u00e8le du bureau gouvernemental, Keszthely<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li>Oui, cette dette fiscale vient bien d\u2019une assurance sociale non pay\u00e9e.<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>Et \u00e7a se r\u00e8gle o\u00f9 ?<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>Juste ici, au bureau \u00e0 c\u00f4t\u00e9 du mien, mais ma coll\u00e8gue est malade cette semaine.<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>La semaine prochaine, je ne serai plus dans cette ville.<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>Vous pouvez aller \u00e0 H\u00e9v\u00edz aussi, si la semaine prochaine est trop tard pour vous. En attendant, je vous donne un formulaire : avec celui-ci, vous pouvez demander la suppression de votre obligation de paiement. Vous pouvez le rapporter ici ou \u00e0 H\u00e9v\u00edz, ou l\u2019apporter au bureau central \u00e0 Budapest.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Bureau gouvernemental, H\u00e9v\u00edz \u2013 premi\u00e8re tentative<\/strong><br>Je n\u2019obtiens pas de num\u00e9ro. On ne sait pas pourquoi. Je regarde autour de moi.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li>Je peux vous aider ? \u2014 lance une dame en traversant la salle d\u2019attente en courant.<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>La machine ne m\u2019a pas donn\u00e9 de ticket. Alors je cherche l\u2019information sur le mur et sur internet.<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>D\u2019accord. \u2014 et elle continue son chemin.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">J\u2019entends, dans les bribes de conversation venant des guichets, qu\u2019ils vont bient\u00f4t fermer.<br>Ah, c\u2019est donc pour \u00e7a que je n\u2019ai pas eu de num\u00e9ro !<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Si \u201cEtelka-je-peux-aider\u201d veut vraiment aider, elle me dit pourquoi je n\u2019ai pas eu de ticket.<br>Elle aurait aussi pu demander quelle information cherchait l\u2019usager\u2026<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">J\u2019imagine qu\u2019elle avait peur qu\u2019une r\u00e9ponse courte ne me suffise pas ;<br>(ce n\u2019\u00e9tait pas \u00e9crit sur mon front qu\u2019une adresse e-mail me suffirait \ud83d\ude09<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">car la plupart des gens introduisent leur plus longue question par :<br>\u00ab Je veux juste demander rapidement une seule chose\u2026 \u00bb<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Il y a des endroits o\u00f9 l\u2019on apprend \u00e0 \u00e9courter, gentiment mais fermement, les clients qui prennent du temps.<br>Ce n\u2019est pas la faute d\u2019Etelka si ce syst\u00e8me n\u2019a pas ce genre de formation.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Bureau gouvernemental, H\u00e9v\u00edz \u2013 deuxi\u00e8me tentative<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li>Il y a encore beaucoup de monde aujourd\u2019hui : vous ne passerez pas avant la fermeture. Je vous donne un formulaire. Avec cette demande, la prochaine fois, nous pourrons r\u00e9cup\u00e9rer vos donn\u00e9es aupr\u00e8s des Fran\u00e7ais. Inscrivez ici les informations de votre employeur et la p\u00e9riode travaill\u00e9e. Vous n\u2019avez eu qu\u2019un seul employeur en six ans ?<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>Un contrat tous les six mois, mais par exemple \u00e7a fait trois ans que je suis dans le m\u00eame h\u00f4tel.<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>Un contrat, un papier. Prenez-en autant qu\u2019il en faut. 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